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	<title>Comments on: Run automated tests as often as possible</title>
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		<title>By: Gil Zilberfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2009/08/run-automated-tests-as-often-as-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-68130</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil Zilberfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

Good post. I was once in a position that I was the only one writing tests in the team. I was checking them in, but the concept of a full build that runs the tests also was so far away, no one cared about looking at them. I was just trying to get people writing tests, and unfortunately, that stopped there.

You&#039;re absolutely right, and I&#039;ve learned from it. I hope other people don&#039;t throw away usable tests. Integrate them into the build.

Gil Zilberfeld
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>Good post. I was once in a position that I was the only one writing tests in the team. I was checking them in, but the concept of a full build that runs the tests also was so far away, no one cared about looking at them. I was just trying to get people writing tests, and unfortunately, that stopped there.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, and I&#8217;ve learned from it. I hope other people don&#8217;t throw away usable tests. Integrate them into the build.</p>
<p>Gil Zilberfeld<br />
Typemock</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Hericus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Hericus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more.  It&#039;s a shame to waste tests like this, and it seems like the only reason that these tests end up falling by the wayside is that there wasn&#039;t a proper (read: simple) test framework that was put in place to make it easy for anyone to add tests as they went.

The test framework is the one that gets integrated into the CI build system, and anything added to it is always automatically run.  That way the programmers can easily add tests and don&#039;t have to worry about special setup.

Keep tests simple, easy to maintain, and you&#039;ll rapidly grow a lot of them.  Incorporate them into a simple testing framework and they&#039;ll have a place to live and continue to give useful results for the life of your project.

Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more.  It&#8217;s a shame to waste tests like this, and it seems like the only reason that these tests end up falling by the wayside is that there wasn&#8217;t a proper (read: simple) test framework that was put in place to make it easy for anyone to add tests as they went.</p>
<p>The test framework is the one that gets integrated into the CI build system, and anything added to it is always automatically run.  That way the programmers can easily add tests and don&#8217;t have to worry about special setup.</p>
<p>Keep tests simple, easy to maintain, and you&#8217;ll rapidly grow a lot of them.  Incorporate them into a simple testing framework and they&#8217;ll have a place to live and continue to give useful results for the life of your project.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post!</p>
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