http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/the-world-mocks-too-much/ thekua's reflections on work related topics Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:22:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/the-world-mocks-too-much/comment-page-1/#comment-33939 I wish there was a mocking framework… « monkey island Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:28:41 +0000 http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/06/the-world-mocks-too-much/#comment-33939 [...] Patrick Kua writes in his blog: That’s why that even though Mockito is a welcome addition to the testing toolkit, I’m equally frightened by its ability to silence the screams of test code executing poorly designed production code [...] [...] Patrick Kua writes in his blog: That’s why that even though Mockito is a welcome addition to the testing toolkit, I’m equally frightened by its ability to silence the screams of test code executing poorly designed production code [...]

]]> http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/the-world-mocks-too-much/comment-page-1/#comment-30699 Arjan`s World » LINKBLOG for October 7, 2008 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:06:19 +0000 http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/06/the-world-mocks-too-much/#comment-30699 [...] The world mocks too much - Patrick Kua ‘ The “purists” that I prefer to call “zealots”, are overwhelming in numbers, particularly in the TDD community (you do realise you can test drive your code without mocks?) ‘ Ah, OK. I see a direction the other way recently, from zealotry to a more pragmatic approach; which is a good thing. Zealots are difficult to handle by definition. Might be looking at another niche than Patrick does, though [...] [...] The world mocks too much – Patrick Kua ‘ The “purists” that I prefer to call “zealots”, are overwhelming in numbers, particularly in the TDD community (you do realise you can test drive your code without mocks?) ‘ Ah, OK. I see a direction the other way recently, from zealotry to a more pragmatic approach; which is a good thing. Zealots are difficult to handle by definition. Might be looking at another niche than Patrick does, though [...]

]]> http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/the-world-mocks-too-much/comment-page-1/#comment-30693 The Punch Barrel by Frank Carver / The world mocks too much Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:58:10 +0000 http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/06/the-world-mocks-too-much/#comment-30693 [...] thekua.com@work » The world mocks too much [...] [...] thekua.com@work » The world mocks too much [...]

]]> http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/the-world-mocks-too-much/comment-page-1/#comment-30586 Isaiah Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:31:37 +0000 http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/10/06/the-world-mocks-too-much/#comment-30586 Excellent post pat, the whole purpose of mocks in the context of TDD has been totally been misunderstood, it more about discovering roles and less about isolating objects. On my current project we are working on a codebase where nearly everything is mocked, the test code are simply a mirror of production code, it impossible to refactor without breaking the tests Excellent post pat, the whole purpose of mocks in the context of TDD has been totally been misunderstood, it more about discovering roles and less about isolating objects. On my current project we are working on a codebase where nearly everything is mocked, the test code are simply a mirror of production code, it impossible to refactor without breaking the tests

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