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		<title>By: thekua.com@work &#187; A model for understanding retrospective impact</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-57255</link>
		<dc:creator>thekua.com@work &#187; A model for understanding retrospective impact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dysfunctional in this sense to capture a broad category including newly formed teams, or simply groups of people. This does not necessarily mean the team cannot advance, nor that it hasn&#8217;t had a chance to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Punch Barrel / thekua.com@work » What do you have more of?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Punch Barrel / thekua.com@work » What do you have more of?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Gillard-Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-22054</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Gillard-Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many organizations believe they are creating teams with shared goals when really they are just creating groups of people.  Most organizations I have been in spout slogans such as &quot;team orientated&quot;, &quot;focused on success&quot; etc. etc.  As far as they can see they are have given common goals (usually using appraisals and job descriptions) e.g. &quot;deliver software to deadline&quot; and then organized people into a hierarchical structure of &quot;teams&quot; to meet those goals.

The problem is that when you get below the &quot;team&quot; the interaction between members is limited to weekly meetings or social events (mainly going to lunch or cigarette breaks together).  Each team member may have been given the same high level goal as the others but they are still placed within silos in that team and given individual areas and sub-goals.  As a result there is little collective ownership, or shared knowledge and individuals become more and more focused on their own worlds and quickly forget about working together whilst management focus on &quot;team activities&quot; to attempt to resolve this.  A great example of this is how few organizations use pairing, one of the most effective ways of creating a real sense of team.

I think it is this disconnect between perception and reality that Ricky Gervais managed to capture perfectly in &quot;The Office&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many organizations believe they are creating teams with shared goals when really they are just creating groups of people.  Most organizations I have been in spout slogans such as &#8220;team orientated&#8221;, &#8220;focused on success&#8221; etc. etc.  As far as they can see they are have given common goals (usually using appraisals and job descriptions) e.g. &#8220;deliver software to deadline&#8221; and then organized people into a hierarchical structure of &#8220;teams&#8221; to meet those goals.</p>
<p>The problem is that when you get below the &#8220;team&#8221; the interaction between members is limited to weekly meetings or social events (mainly going to lunch or cigarette breaks together).  Each team member may have been given the same high level goal as the others but they are still placed within silos in that team and given individual areas and sub-goals.  As a result there is little collective ownership, or shared knowledge and individuals become more and more focused on their own worlds and quickly forget about working together whilst management focus on &#8220;team activities&#8221; to attempt to resolve this.  A great example of this is how few organizations use pairing, one of the most effective ways of creating a real sense of team.</p>
<p>I think it is this disconnect between perception and reality that Ricky Gervais managed to capture perfectly in &#8220;The Office&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sloth</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-22052</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I understand that it your intention wasn&#039;t pro thinking unification. It just could lead to the wrongful conclusion and as you can see, commenters have fallen for that :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I understand that it your intention wasn&#8217;t pro thinking unification. It just could lead to the wrongful conclusion and as you can see, commenters have fallen for that <img src='http://www.thekua.com/atwork/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-22041</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this post, I did not mean to imply in this post that everyone must agree and be clones. I also did not mean to imply that if everyone has the same goal, they should have groupthink. What I did want to get across is that you do not have teams if they are not working towards the same goal. They can each contribute in different ways towards that goal. 

I am very much a big supporter of collaborative decision making, set design/options and am familiar with the ideas of wisdom of crowds. For me, it&#039;s important that all of these are still pointing in the greater direction (the same ultimate goal). How you get there can be different, and is important to investigate different options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this post, I did not mean to imply in this post that everyone must agree and be clones. I also did not mean to imply that if everyone has the same goal, they should have groupthink. What I did want to get across is that you do not have teams if they are not working towards the same goal. They can each contribute in different ways towards that goal. </p>
<p>I am very much a big supporter of collaborative decision making, set design/options and am familiar with the ideas of wisdom of crowds. For me, it&#8217;s important that all of these are still pointing in the greater direction (the same ultimate goal). How you get there can be different, and is important to investigate different options.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sloth</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-22034</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally with Felix - http://lazyloading.blogspot.com/2008/07/one-more-time-about-of-group-will.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally with Felix &#8211; <a href="http://lazyloading.blogspot.com/2008/07/one-more-time-about-of-group-will.html" rel="nofollow">http://lazyloading.blogspot.com/2008/07/one-more-time-about-of-group-will.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I was not very verbose. It is a). I think the value of a team is that you get different ideas. Of course reading the text makes it quite clear that you tried to show the shared goals. Still it worried me a little. Groupthink makes people stupid. Kathy Sierra had a good &lt;a href=&quot;http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/03/one_of_us_iisi_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post &lt;/a&gt; about this - the &#039;Wisdom of Crowds&#039; is a very good read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was not very verbose. It is a). I think the value of a team is that you get different ideas. Of course reading the text makes it quite clear that you tried to show the shared goals. Still it worried me a little. Groupthink makes people stupid. Kathy Sierra had a good <a href="http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/03/one_of_us_iisi_.html" rel="nofollow">post </a> about this &#8211; the &#8216;Wisdom of Crowds&#8217; is a very good read.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-22017</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix - What makes you say that? Do you mean that you would prefer to be be a group because: 

a) the diagram implies everyone is thinking exactly the same thing?
b) it&#039;s strange to think that everyone can be focused on looking at the same big picture?
c) Something else?

Would you mind sharing a little bit more detail about why you say that? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix &#8211; What makes you say that? Do you mean that you would prefer to be be a group because: </p>
<p>a) the diagram implies everyone is thinking exactly the same thing?<br />
b) it&#8217;s strange to think that everyone can be focused on looking at the same big picture?<br />
c) Something else?</p>
<p>Would you mind sharing a little bit more detail about why you say that? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-22016</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, looking at the picture I doubt whether I&#039;d prefer being part of a team rather than a group...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, looking at the picture I doubt whether I&#8217;d prefer being part of a team rather than a group&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Initialization :: Spotting a Team</title>
		<link>http://www.thekua.com/atwork/2008/07/what-do-you-have-more-of/comment-page-1/#comment-21980</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Initialization :: Spotting a Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Patrick Kua has a post about a topic I&#8217;ve thought about a lot recently: the power of a true team vs. a loosely organized group of people working together.  I believe he is spot on about there being significant benefits to building a tightly integrated team.  He even offers some suggestions for how you can form such teams in your own organiation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Patrick Kua has a post about a topic I&#8217;ve thought about a lot recently: the power of a true team vs. a loosely organized group of people working together.  I believe he is spot on about there being significant benefits to building a tightly integrated team.  He even offers some suggestions for how you can form such teams in your own organiation. [...]</p>
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